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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 02:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will agree on the original post, i joined myself with a fake picture and profile and all I saw are a guy who pretended to be a girl, requests from 14 year old horny girls for private chats and skype calls and hosts/moderators who would just sit around, not bring around order. This is adult content but, completely being managed by children. It should be taken down, and have the owner go to jail, for making money out of exploiting the sexual needs of children. (Everywhere you look, there are huge credit card photos and below say that if you donate and gain more points, more people are to add you and you are to make more and better friends. It&#039;s a SCAM.

@Rayne

Kids want to mature, NOT START SEXUALLY RELATED CONTENT THROUGH WEBCAMS AT AN AGE OF 13 WHICH IS BEING RECORDED BY THE ADMIN OF THE SITE BECAUSE HE IS A PERVERT. This is illegal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will agree on the original post, i joined myself with a fake picture and profile and all I saw are a guy who pretended to be a girl, requests from 14 year old horny girls for private chats and skype calls and hosts/moderators who would just sit around, not bring around order. This is adult content but, completely being managed by children. It should be taken down, and have the owner go to jail, for making money out of exploiting the sexual needs of children. (Everywhere you look, there are huge credit card photos and below say that if you donate and gain more points, more people are to add you and you are to make more and better friends. It&#8217;s a SCAM.</p>
<p>@Rayne</p>
<p>Kids want to mature, NOT START SEXUALLY RELATED CONTENT THROUGH WEBCAMS AT AN AGE OF 13 WHICH IS BEING RECORDED BY THE ADMIN OF THE SITE BECAUSE HE IS A PERVERT. This is illegal.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2011 05:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alright, look. The fact that it&#039;s exposing teens in a sexual manner isn&#039;t right, and we all know that. Now let&#039;s look at the other half of the spectrum. In this day and age, the pressure for teens to date at a young age has increased MAJORLY. Some people say this is because kids want to &quot;fit in&quot;, but it&#039;s obvious that children are starting to mature at a much younger age nowadays. You can blame the media, technology, etc. all you want but this is the 21st century, and it&#039;s time to start realizing this is how the youth of today choose to be. And, as Vinny said, there is no way in hell that taking down one little site will stop pedophilia by any means. So get back to your lives and let kids be kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright, look. The fact that it&#8217;s exposing teens in a sexual manner isn&#8217;t right, and we all know that. Now let&#8217;s look at the other half of the spectrum. In this day and age, the pressure for teens to date at a young age has increased MAJORLY. Some people say this is because kids want to &#8220;fit in&#8221;, but it&#8217;s obvious that children are starting to mature at a much younger age nowadays. You can blame the media, technology, etc. all you want but this is the 21st century, and it&#8217;s time to start realizing this is how the youth of today choose to be. And, as Vinny said, there is no way in hell that taking down one little site will stop pedophilia by any means. So get back to your lives and let kids be kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Vinny Khong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinny Khong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, but if you think this website deserves to be shutdown you are a TOOL of the media. What is the difference between said site, and the millions of other social networking sites out there? C&#039;mon now, since you&#039;re an avid blogger, you clearly know the medium of the internet. 

Pedophiles operate on the guise of anonymity online. You think shutting down this particular site will magically cause them to stop what they&#039;re doing? If you do think that, you are very naive.

What is to stop them from transferring their perverseness to sites such as myspace.com, or facebook.com, or anywhere else for that matter?

Just $.02 from a longtime online security analyst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but if you think this website deserves to be shutdown you are a TOOL of the media. What is the difference between said site, and the millions of other social networking sites out there? C&#8217;mon now, since you&#8217;re an avid blogger, you clearly know the medium of the internet. </p>
<p>Pedophiles operate on the guise of anonymity online. You think shutting down this particular site will magically cause them to stop what they&#8217;re doing? If you do think that, you are very naive.</p>
<p>What is to stop them from transferring their perverseness to sites such as myspace.com, or facebook.com, or anywhere else for that matter?</p>
<p>Just $.02 from a longtime online security analyst.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabrielle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabrielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 02:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it just depends on how smart the damn kids are. Seeing as most are acting quite stupid on sites like MyLOL, it doesn&#039;t make that good an image for the site. The smart ones who actually WANT a relationship, or friends, few as they are, for some reason aren&#039;t ever accounted for. I&#039;ve met the owner, Lipari, whatever you want to call him, and he&#039;s far from sleazy, and is actually a good-hearted guy who&#039;s modifying the site at the moment to make it a safer place. And he&#039;s also a VERY good friend of mine, and what you said was judgmental and rude, seeing as you don&#039;t even KNOW the guy. Believe it or not, as a lawyer&#039;s daughter, you can&#039;t do shit to shut it down, no offense. It isn&#039;t &quot;kiddy porno&quot; or whatever you call it. If there is too much being revealed, the kids are either A. Banned by the moderators hired for the site, or B. BANNED, and they can&#039;t make a new one with the same email. Don&#039;t judge what you don&#039;t know. You obviously don&#039;t know that all kids aren&#039;t looking for sex on this. Most go on, don&#039;t put pictures up, and just talk to people in the chat room. I&#039;m not defending it fully, actually. Most girls on there are misguided and slutty and fake. And most men are complete perverts. But next time, account for the smart ones, will you? Because good god, my friends go on that site, and they don&#039;t do all those stupid ass things. And I met my own damn current fiancee on there, we&#039;re planning on getting married. If it&#039;s used right, the site can actually be a nice place. It&#039;s just that so many people abuse it and don&#039;t use it for the reason it&#039;s there for. For kids to meet other people, make friends, and if you&#039;re lucky, hell, maybe a decent boyfriend. But don&#039;t get me wrong, there are probably a few pedophiles on there, and many perverts. You can tell who&#039;s for real or not without being a rocket scientist. Can you tell the difference between &quot;hey im a hot musician, any hot single girls in here?&quot; and &quot;Hi guys, whatsup?&quot; Or the difference between a picture of a famous person, and an actual person? I personally think though that personal information should not be permitted to be given out, unless if they are truly sure that the person isn&#039;t a fake (webcam, etc.), but most kids don&#039;t give a shit no matter HOW many damn warnings are slapped in their faces. But I&#039;m actually pretty offended by this, seeing as you&#039;re insulting a bunch of kind, good people (that I KNOW are real, by the way) who are only looking for friends and/or girl or boyfriends for many of their own reasons. If it&#039;s used properly, it&#039;s not the horrible place you make it out to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it just depends on how smart the damn kids are. Seeing as most are acting quite stupid on sites like MyLOL, it doesn&#8217;t make that good an image for the site. The smart ones who actually WANT a relationship, or friends, few as they are, for some reason aren&#8217;t ever accounted for. I&#8217;ve met the owner, Lipari, whatever you want to call him, and he&#8217;s far from sleazy, and is actually a good-hearted guy who&#8217;s modifying the site at the moment to make it a safer place. And he&#8217;s also a VERY good friend of mine, and what you said was judgmental and rude, seeing as you don&#8217;t even KNOW the guy. Believe it or not, as a lawyer&#8217;s daughter, you can&#8217;t do shit to shut it down, no offense. It isn&#8217;t &#8220;kiddy porno&#8221; or whatever you call it. If there is too much being revealed, the kids are either A. Banned by the moderators hired for the site, or B. BANNED, and they can&#8217;t make a new one with the same email. Don&#8217;t judge what you don&#8217;t know. You obviously don&#8217;t know that all kids aren&#8217;t looking for sex on this. Most go on, don&#8217;t put pictures up, and just talk to people in the chat room. I&#8217;m not defending it fully, actually. Most girls on there are misguided and slutty and fake. And most men are complete perverts. But next time, account for the smart ones, will you? Because good god, my friends go on that site, and they don&#8217;t do all those stupid ass things. And I met my own damn current fiancee on there, we&#8217;re planning on getting married. If it&#8217;s used right, the site can actually be a nice place. It&#8217;s just that so many people abuse it and don&#8217;t use it for the reason it&#8217;s there for. For kids to meet other people, make friends, and if you&#8217;re lucky, hell, maybe a decent boyfriend. But don&#8217;t get me wrong, there are probably a few pedophiles on there, and many perverts. You can tell who&#8217;s for real or not without being a rocket scientist. Can you tell the difference between &#8220;hey im a hot musician, any hot single girls in here?&#8221; and &#8220;Hi guys, whatsup?&#8221; Or the difference between a picture of a famous person, and an actual person? I personally think though that personal information should not be permitted to be given out, unless if they are truly sure that the person isn&#8217;t a fake (webcam, etc.), but most kids don&#8217;t give a shit no matter HOW many damn warnings are slapped in their faces. But I&#8217;m actually pretty offended by this, seeing as you&#8217;re insulting a bunch of kind, good people (that I KNOW are real, by the way) who are only looking for friends and/or girl or boyfriends for many of their own reasons. If it&#8217;s used properly, it&#8217;s not the horrible place you make it out to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Keanu Reeves Enthusiast</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keanu Reeves Enthusiast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You need a license to fish... Any jackass can have a kid.&quot;
Prime example of absentee parents. They either don&#039;t know, or don&#039;t care. Hence, we&#039;ll have a generation of whores running around in no time. 
All the more reason for me to separate myself from this great big pile of... Society, and go live in the beautiful mountains of Colorado.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You need a license to fish&#8230; Any jackass can have a kid.&#8221;<br />
Prime example of absentee parents. They either don&#8217;t know, or don&#8217;t care. Hence, we&#8217;ll have a generation of whores running around in no time.<br />
All the more reason for me to separate myself from this great big pile of&#8230; Society, and go live in the beautiful mountains of Colorado.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Cardinal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Cardinal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well spoken, &quot;kretty.&quot; But frankly, encouraging kids to do sexually impulsive things online is a pretty fucking stupid thing to do and endemic of the problem, not a &quot;well, it&#039;s all gone to hell so might as well profit from it&quot; point of view.

Thanks for expressing yourself so eloquently, though. It really makes your side of the argument shine. Ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well spoken, &#8220;kretty.&#8221; But frankly, encouraging kids to do sexually impulsive things online is a pretty fucking stupid thing to do and endemic of the problem, not a &#8220;well, it&#8217;s all gone to hell so might as well profit from it&#8221; point of view.</p>
<p>Thanks for expressing yourself so eloquently, though. It really makes your side of the argument shine. Ass.</p>
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		<title>By: kretty fruger</title>
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		<dc:creator>kretty fruger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ure a dickhed who wrote this article, youve jsut used clever persuasive techniques to make this thing look bad. theres dickheds on it, theres dickheds on myspace and everywhere,, the young kids that are into it, are obviously into it anyways if not on the computer then what else are they gonna go do, the real thing, u cant stop people from being people and doing what theya re doing, but you can give heavy warnings, and people 13 and up which have the warnings slapped in there face, no the consequences, epsecially this day and age, as harsh as it is the conciquences are there own. and the guy who made it is my mate, and hes a good decent bloke so those comments are judgemental and unnessary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ure a dickhed who wrote this article, youve jsut used clever persuasive techniques to make this thing look bad. theres dickheds on it, theres dickheds on myspace and everywhere,, the young kids that are into it, are obviously into it anyways if not on the computer then what else are they gonna go do, the real thing, u cant stop people from being people and doing what theya re doing, but you can give heavy warnings, and people 13 and up which have the warnings slapped in there face, no the consequences, epsecially this day and age, as harsh as it is the conciquences are there own. and the guy who made it is my mate, and hes a good decent bloke so those comments are judgemental and unnessary</p>
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		<title>By: Reporter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reporter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may be interested to know that following an investigation by the BBC, the site has been reported by the NSPCC and they have called for it to be shut down.

It appears to be run by just a couple of thick headed 18 years old college kids who dont give a damn about the kids and just want to make money</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may be interested to know that following an investigation by the BBC, the site has been reported by the NSPCC and they have called for it to be shut down.</p>
<p>It appears to be run by just a couple of thick headed 18 years old college kids who dont give a damn about the kids and just want to make money</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Ching</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon Ching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, I agree with you that the real source of the problem here is parenting. And I&#039;m sure you know me well enough to know that I believe in a free Net (yes, Stallman&#039;s version of free), probably more so than most people. I do not believe that site operators are necessarily always responsible for content and actions performed on their site. For instance, I see nothing wrong with torrent search sites and P2P applications, despite the obvious proliferation of copyright material. 

But I think there is a VERY big difference here when talking about loss of profit sourced in a specific behavior vs. profit gained through child exploitation. MySpace sells itself as a social networking site to connect people. It targets everyone for the purpose of communication and connection. There&#039;s nothing wrong with this. People will use it, as they will, good or bad. Yet MyLOL sells itself as a &quot;teen dating&quot; site. This premise presupposes an interest in romance and &quot;finding love.&quot; When you consider other things in the site like a point scoring system, age range search that includes “12 and under,” and adult advertising (Fling.com), there are things that just don’t jive. If they are targeting teens, why have adult sex/relationship advertising (I also saw a Westin hotel advert there too…as if teens can afford to travel and stay at a Westin), why have an age search category for reaching members aged 40+?

Unfortunately, you are right that this technology is so cheap to implement these days that it is difficult to control new sites springing up at any given time. And yes, unfortunately, the demand for this type of service is there. Yet, while I am usually always against forms of control and coercion in society, I also realize that there are certain compelling interests that force control over certain domains. We have status-offenses for underage smoking, drinking, curfew, and sexual behaviors (statutory rape) because society has deemed these actions harmful to youth. While it is obviously debatable, I think that this specific type of business model (targeting youth while promoting adult sexuality and promoting “deviant” youth behavior) might present a compelling enough interest to society and government to sanction its use. I mean, personally, if kids want to have sex and their parents are not in the picture or don’t care, then whatever…it happens…they’re not my kids. But the main thing is that I’m not promoting them to do it, not enabling them to do it, not providing an arena of pressure to do it. This site is. That’s the biggest difference.

Kids may like and want this sort of thing, but they also like and want cars, guns, drugs, and alcohol. Yet these are restricted to kids, to varying degrees, in most developed nations for the simple fact that it harms them at an early age. I mean really, is it that hard to wait until they reach 18/21, then they can strip, sleep with, shoot, race, smoke, and drink whatever/whoever they want. But in the mean time, this site is PROMOTING and permitting behavior that many people might agree is damaging to young minds (like drugs, alcohol, guns, etc). Thus, I feel it should be taken down (or at the very least, stripped [no pun intended] of adult advertising and moderated for content).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, I agree with you that the real source of the problem here is parenting. And I&#8217;m sure you know me well enough to know that I believe in a free Net (yes, Stallman&#8217;s version of free), probably more so than most people. I do not believe that site operators are necessarily always responsible for content and actions performed on their site. For instance, I see nothing wrong with torrent search sites and P2P applications, despite the obvious proliferation of copyright material. </p>
<p>But I think there is a VERY big difference here when talking about loss of profit sourced in a specific behavior vs. profit gained through child exploitation. MySpace sells itself as a social networking site to connect people. It targets everyone for the purpose of communication and connection. There&#8217;s nothing wrong with this. People will use it, as they will, good or bad. Yet MyLOL sells itself as a &#8220;teen dating&#8221; site. This premise presupposes an interest in romance and &#8220;finding love.&#8221; When you consider other things in the site like a point scoring system, age range search that includes “12 and under,” and adult advertising (Fling.com), there are things that just don’t jive. If they are targeting teens, why have adult sex/relationship advertising (I also saw a Westin hotel advert there too…as if teens can afford to travel and stay at a Westin), why have an age search category for reaching members aged 40+?</p>
<p>Unfortunately, you are right that this technology is so cheap to implement these days that it is difficult to control new sites springing up at any given time. And yes, unfortunately, the demand for this type of service is there. Yet, while I am usually always against forms of control and coercion in society, I also realize that there are certain compelling interests that force control over certain domains. We have status-offenses for underage smoking, drinking, curfew, and sexual behaviors (statutory rape) because society has deemed these actions harmful to youth. While it is obviously debatable, I think that this specific type of business model (targeting youth while promoting adult sexuality and promoting “deviant” youth behavior) might present a compelling enough interest to society and government to sanction its use. I mean, personally, if kids want to have sex and their parents are not in the picture or don’t care, then whatever…it happens…they’re not my kids. But the main thing is that I’m not promoting them to do it, not enabling them to do it, not providing an arena of pressure to do it. This site is. That’s the biggest difference.</p>
<p>Kids may like and want this sort of thing, but they also like and want cars, guns, drugs, and alcohol. Yet these are restricted to kids, to varying degrees, in most developed nations for the simple fact that it harms them at an early age. I mean really, is it that hard to wait until they reach 18/21, then they can strip, sleep with, shoot, race, smoke, and drink whatever/whoever they want. But in the mean time, this site is PROMOTING and permitting behavior that many people might agree is damaging to young minds (like drugs, alcohol, guns, etc). Thus, I feel it should be taken down (or at the very least, stripped [no pun intended] of adult advertising and moderated for content).</p>
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		<title>By: Edgar Hassler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edgar Hassler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can ring my beee-eeeee-eeel, ring my bell.  I love that song.</description>
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