TechCrunch50 Fail Boat: Yet Another Clone Wins, Innovation Is Dead
By Chris Cardinal
On September 11th, 2008
Last year was TechCrunch‘s first shot at a demo-ish conference. Forty startups launched and presented their premise to a crowd of bloggers, journalists, VCs and such and such. Last year’s winner was personal finance tracker Mint.com. Mint allows you to sync up all of your credit cards, loans, bank accounts and even reward points and track your entire financial well-being. It creates budgets for you and makes them pretty.
The issue? Mint is really just a re-skinned version of Yodlee. Yodlee is a bank account aggregation tool that makes itself available to banks who want to offer their customers the same sort of “one look” aggregation services in a white-label manner. They’re good at what they do, and they offer a free personal edition called MoneyCenter. Mint simply slapped a bunch of pretty gradients on top of it (they actually use Yodlee as their backend) and some transaction matching algorithms that generally miscategorize items or retitle them if it thinks it knows what they were. (It’s wrong, in my experience, a staggering amount of the time.)
They also use your information to peddle credit card and savings account deals to you, because they can give customized estimates and let you see what you could save by going elsewhere. Their entire business model is reskinning another company’s product offering and earning referral commissions with their bit of logic.
Now I’m not saying Mint isn’t pretty. I’m not saying it’s not a better option than straight up Yodlee, though their transaction-matching will make you want to commit murder. But what I *am* saying is that reskinning another site is nowhere near innovative, clever and cool enough to have set them apart from the 39 other great companies at TechCrunch last year.
Well guess what? Fail strikes again. TechCrunch announced this year’s winner: Yammer. Michael refers to it as “Twitter with a business model” and that should be enough right there. It’s basically a corporate-network-limited Twitter. You have to register with a corporate email address, and your “tweets” are kept private only to others within that network. That’s it. It’s otherwise identical to Twitter. Yammer makes a quick buck by allowing HR departments at these organizations to “take ownership” of their own domain’s on Yammer by paying $1/user for the privilege.
Oh, and they ask “what are you working on?” instead of “what are you doing?” Call me crazy, but any company that has essentially refactored another, popular site’s concept into a small, microcosm, tightly focused business model is in for a MAJOR ass-kicking when papa bear decides to build their own iteration of this functionality. Why the hell shouldn’t Twitter tomorrow announce Twitter Corporate or Twitter Networks. Allow you to select which networks you belong to, continue to restrict access by company domain emails and hide certain tweets or allow them to be targeted: HOLY SHIT YOU JUST DESTROYED THE ENTIRETY THAT IS YAMMER.
My point is this: With absolutely nothing else to differentiate here, there is nearly NO innovation and definitely NO justification for them to have won this year’s TechCrunch50: 10,000 new members and 2,000 organizations is nothing; Twitter can do it better and if anyone bright over there actually has a say, something like this would be simple (relatively) to implement and MUCH more convenient for existing users of Twitter.
(Disclosure: One of our internal projects was one of the 100 TechCrunch40 finalists in last year’s competition. We were nowhere near far enough along with it, however. Point remains that plenty of the other companies at both events had more merit for the prize by FAR.)
Tagged with: failboat, innovation, mint, techcrunch, techcrunch50, twitter, yammer, yodlee
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TC50 killed itself thanks to Yammer, where there was still hope after Mint.
DEMO presented more interesting companies.
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You 100% right, good talk! Also appreciate your speech.
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Chris,
Mint is the product of quite a lot of work and to say that it’s Yodlee with some gradients on it is really missing quite a bit. We have over 25 employees now working on the product. Yodlee is where we get the data from but there is a lot more to personal finance than just the data. Money management is not a new idea, but doing it right certainly is– and too many Americans, myself included, never bothered before because it was too much work. Mint strives to mostly automate the process.
I’m sorry you haven’t had an ideal experience. All I can say is it works very well for a lot of people, feel free to do a twitter search for mint.com. I also know that it’s only going to get better as a robust investment feature and a new transaction system are just around the corner.
As for this year’s TechCrunch winner and finalists, I have no idea what the criteria is. But I’m confident that every single one of the 50 finalists will be able to raise money after presenting.
Thanks,
Jason M. Putorti
Lead Designer, mint.com
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Jason,
Thanks a bunch for your counterpoint to my post. It’s much appreciated.
I’d love to know more about what the Mint developers are working on. I use Mint, but again, the transaction matching has caused me troubles.
I think Mint is much more accessible than Yodlee and the auto-budgeting and other components are friendly and helpful.
I stand by my assertion that I think there are startups with a more original, innovative core product offering than Mint OR Yammer. I don’t think you should’ve been excluded from TC40, for example. I just really don’t grasp what criteria Michael & Co. are using to say you or Yammer were “better” than the others.
The new design looks absolutely *fantastic*, by the way. Keep up the good work!
–Chris Cardinal
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Chris,
You can always email me direct with more details and I’d be happy to figure out what’s going on. We improve the algorithms from direct user feedback, and user action–whenever you re-categorize something or create rules.
Glad you like the design. I spend *a lot* of time on it.
As for TC, I’m as clueless as you are. I did not see any of the presentations which is what the award is based on. I will say that there’s a difference between a novel / innovative idea, and one that solves a real problem. Obviously there’s a lot of experimenting out there which doesn’t produce a winning business.
Thanks,
Jason M. Putorti
Lead Designer, mint.com
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In my opinion, TC50 is about which service they think has the best chance of building something that lasts.
As for Yammer, I see the benefits of having a closed company only micro-blogging/messaging platform. You could create your own with laconi.ca, too and keep it behind the firewall and pay no one.
One thing is clear, the style of communication is here to stay, and there is room for both open and closed systems. My twitter community and my yammer community has some overlap in people, but not in content. I can speak more openly about what I’m working on when I know only my co-workers will get it.
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